OEDAM 2015

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Location and Time

March 27-28 (after ELC and Yocto Project Developer Day)

2315 North 1st Street, San Jose, CA 95131

Google maps suggests getting off light rail at the Component Station.

Start at 0900 each day.


Now that people are already claiming to attend by Google Hangout, I will announce our intention to also webcast via Google Hangout ;)


  • Philip Balister (Crofton)
  • Denys Dmytriyenko (denix)
  • Armin Kuster (Armpit)
  • Martin Jansa (JaMa) - 50%
  • Michael Halstead (halstead) - Friday only
  • Jeff Osier-Mixon (jefro)
  • Paul Eggleton (bluelightning)
  • Steve Arnold (nerdboy/mr_science)
  • Stephanie Lockwood-Childs (wormo/sjl) - via hangout
  • Ron Lockwood-Childs (speedy1) - via hangout
  • Herb Kuta
  • Tim Orling (moto-timo)
  • Sean Hudson (darknighte)
  • Bruce Ashfield (zedd) - probably
  • Mark Hatle (fray)
  • Sona Sarmadi
  • Changhyeok Bae
  • Belén Barros Pena (belen) - via hangout
  • Richard Purdie (RP) - via hangout
  • Ken Sharp

Agenda Items

  • X Progress on items identified during OEDAM 2014
  • X Security processes
  • X Infrastructure
  • X Removing the oe-core and meta-oe repos on github. These repos are now called openembedded-core and meta-openembedded/
  • X People still use OE-classic from time to time. Should we remove the repo?
  • X Layer maintenance
  • X Demos
  • >>> Patch review tools, improving the patch process
  • Development cycle
  • Community Development / Team Building (please add more examples/ideas... almond flour cake is always good...)
    • Intro / crash course events
    • Coordinated bug day sprints
    • Other group/meetup activities
    • Stack Overflow support
  • Tests


OEDAM: OpenEmbedded Developer's (American) Meeting March 27-28, 2015 _______________________________________________________________________ ATTENDANCE

in room: mark hatle michael halstead bill mills paul eggleton denys dmitryenko sean hudson armin kuster tim orling philip balister sona sarmadi martin jansa ken sharp stephen arnold changhyeok bae herb kuta benjamin esquivel grant likely jefro

phone: richard purdie belen barros pena beth flanagan bruce ashfield

(Apologies if I missed your name - jefro) _______________________________________________________________________ AGENDA & SUMMARY

open issues & action items marked with =>

OEDAM 2014 summary => Lava - kernel ci can use it, not required; YP QA team experimenting => TSC role - board needs to run election, koen willing to be replaced

   why is embedded still hard - progress making it marginally easier
   layer quality - ongoing process
   lune - setup image replacement, spurred demo discussion
   next +1 - discussed
   local.conf from third parties -


   testing security patches high priority, not all in one place

=> sona proposed security mailing list for monitoring, patches, policy

   & agreed to investigate possible CVE database
   owner: sona & fray


   github repos - obsolete repos going away June 30
       make it obvious github is a mirror
   OE-classic - keeping for historical reasons only

=> read-only & rename to oe-classic? oe-obsolete? => ok to disable push requests from github.com?

   owner: crofton

Layer maintenance

   build status reporting is better, incl. blacklisting bad recipes
   layer index is very positive, does not (yet?) report layer quality
   possible toaster integration in the future

Improving demos

   noted SDR demo in YP booth at ELC running on different SoCs
   html5/luna replacement for sato desired
   what is good for developers vs. what makes a good demo - discussion

=> bmills suggested a monthly technical meeting to work on these issues => jefro to schedule meeting about demos: test images, sato, etc

   identify problem, role of sato, suitable alternatives & usage cases

Patch review process

   RP outlined patch review process
   some aberrations in process illustrated - need tool improvement    
   some resources could be put into improving patchwork
       to automate some processes that are currently manual
   paul suggests adding functionality tests

=> general conclusion to focus on package managers, feeds, tools

=> sources from bitbake world builds moving to new location

   crofton/michael will update DNS, should be invisible


   autobuilder provides many testing featuers, automated qemu, ptests
   OE self test doesn't run on autobuilder (takes too long)

=> need more resources from community

   test mentoring helpful

Development cycle

   paul asks whether the current dev cycle works
   4-cycle system w/milestones (in YP) works well
   testing could be improved as per previous discussion
   some people still hold things back until last minute, RC process
   using smart for RPM: 

=> smart needs a new maintainer

   brief discussion about YP technical call - terse agenda & minutes

=> jefro to work with sjolley to add RP's readout to minutes

   discussion about collecting sources for an OE source mirror

  1. packages
   armin asks, should there be a limit on packages in OE
   fray & RP suggest OE has a self-imposed feature limit, by testing

=> discuss within TSC


   more technical documentation resources needed

=> crofton to mention to Advisory Board


   SPI working well
   changing eV structure, sean streamlining, possibly moving to US
   next GA & possible OEDEM after ELCE in October/Dublin

Community Development / Team Building

   Intro / crash course events

=> jefro to investigate materials, resources for promotion

   Coordinated bug day sprints
       note: general feeling that janitors list is misnamed

=> jefro - remind stephen to add triage info to bug list => crofton/paul - set up bug day US a.m., UK/EU afternoon

       separate event for Asia

=> jefro - investigate webinar format

       wiki cleanup needed, Jack's front page work?

=> jefro - organize as board/TSC administrative issue

   TSC meetings
       communication has been very important, now missing

=> organize issues & meetings every 2 months

   community metrics

=> jefro - work with board

   Other group/meetup activities
       openhatch, internship programs like opw

=> all - contribute to Stack Overflow support/discussions

next OEDAM concurrent with ELC in San Diego, March 2016 _______________________________________________________________________ DETAIL

Full text minutes available at: http://pastebin.com/jpAFDUCy or https://docs.google.com/document/d/16cueQXzrpvzhL7lzLiQxf5NZ4STYDffK0M3OLul0Fys/edit?usp=sharing

Full audio recording available on request (allow time for uploading)