OEDAM 2015
Location and Time
March 27-28 (after ELC and Yocto Project Developer Day)
2315 North 1st Street, San Jose, CA 95131
Google maps suggests getting off light rail at the Component Station.
Start at 0900 each day.
Now that people are already claiming to attend by Google Hangout, I will announce our intention to also webcast via Google Hangout ;)
Attendees
- Philip Balister (Crofton)
- Denys Dmytriyenko (denix)
- Armin Kuster (Armpit)
- Martin Jansa (JaMa) - 50%
- Michael Halstead (halstead) - Friday only
- Jeff Osier-Mixon (jefro)
- Paul Eggleton (bluelightning)
- Steve Arnold (nerdboy/mr_science)
- Stephanie Lockwood-Childs (wormo/sjl) - via hangout
- Ron Lockwood-Childs (speedy1) - via hangout
- Herb Kuta
- Tim Orling (moto-timo)
- Sean Hudson (darknighte)
- Bruce Ashfield (zedd) - probably
- Mark Hatle (fray)
- Sona Sarmadi
- Changhyeok Bae
- Belén Barros Pena (belen) - via hangout
- Richard Purdie (RP) - via hangout
- Ken Sharp
Agenda Items
- X Progress on items identified during OEDAM 2014
- X Security processes
- X Infrastructure
- X Removing the oe-core and meta-oe repos on github. These repos are now called openembedded-core and meta-openembedded/
- X People still use OE-classic from time to time. Should we remove the repo?
- X Layer maintenance
- X Demos
- >>> Patch review tools, improving the patch process
- Development cycle
- Community Development / Team Building (please add more examples/ideas... almond flour cake is always good...)
- Intro / crash course events
- Coordinated bug day sprints
- Other group/meetup activities
- Stack Overflow support
- Tests
Minutes
OEDAM: OpenEmbedded Developer's (American) Meeting March 27-28, 2015 _______________________________________________________________________ ATTENDANCE
in room: mark hatle michael halstead bill mills paul eggleton denys dmitryenko sean hudson armin kuster tim orling philip balister sona sarmadi martin jansa ken sharp stephen arnold changhyeok bae herb kuta benjamin esquivel grant likely jefro
phone: richard purdie belen barros pena beth flanagan bruce ashfield
(Apologies if I missed your name - jefro) _______________________________________________________________________ AGENDA & SUMMARY
open issues & action items marked with =>
OEDAM 2014 summary => Lava - kernel ci can use it, not required; YP QA team experimenting => TSC role - board needs to run election, koen willing to be replaced
why is embedded still hard - progress making it marginally easier layer quality - ongoing process lune - setup image replacement, spurred demo discussion next +1 - discussed local.conf from third parties -
Security
testing security patches high priority, not all in one place
=> sona proposed security mailing list for monitoring, patches, policy
& agreed to investigate possible CVE database owner: sona & fray
Infrastructure
github repos - obsolete repos going away June 30
make it obvious github is a mirror
OE-classic - keeping for historical reasons only
=> read-only & rename to oe-classic? oe-obsolete? => ok to disable push requests from github.com?
owner: crofton
Layer maintenance
build status reporting is better, incl. blacklisting bad recipes layer index is very positive, does not (yet?) report layer quality possible toaster integration in the future
Improving demos
noted SDR demo in YP booth at ELC running on different SoCs html5/luna replacement for sato desired what is good for developers vs. what makes a good demo - discussion
=> bmills suggested a monthly technical meeting to work on these issues => jefro to schedule meeting about demos: test images, sato, etc
identify problem, role of sato, suitable alternatives & usage cases
Patch review process
RP outlined patch review process
some aberrations in process illustrated - need tool improvement
some resources could be put into improving patchwork
to automate some processes that are currently manual
paul suggests adding functionality tests
=> general conclusion to focus on package managers, feeds, tools
=> sources from bitbake world builds moving to new location
crofton/michael will update DNS, should be invisible
Tests
autobuilder provides many testing featuers, automated qemu, ptests OE self test doesn't run on autobuilder (takes too long)
=> need more resources from community
test mentoring helpful
Development cycle
paul asks whether the current dev cycle works 4-cycle system w/milestones (in YP) works well testing could be improved as per previous discussion some people still hold things back until last minute, RC process using smart for RPM:
=> smart needs a new maintainer
brief discussion about YP technical call - terse agenda & minutes
=> jefro to work with sjolley to add RP's readout to minutes
discussion about collecting sources for an OE source mirror
- packages
armin asks, should there be a limit on packages in OE fray & RP suggest OE has a self-imposed feature limit, by testing
=> discuss within TSC
documentation
more technical documentation resources needed
=> crofton to mention to Advisory Board
OE eV
SPI working well changing eV structure, sean streamlining, possibly moving to US next GA & possible OEDEM after ELCE in October/Dublin
Community Development / Team Building
Intro / crash course events
=> jefro to investigate materials, resources for promotion
Coordinated bug day sprints
note: general feeling that janitors list is misnamed
=> jefro - remind stephen to add triage info to bug list => crofton/paul - set up bug day US a.m., UK/EU afternoon
separate event for Asia
=> jefro - investigate webinar format
website/wiki
wiki cleanup needed, Jack's front page work?
=> jefro - organize as board/TSC administrative issue
TSC meetings
communication has been very important, now missing
=> organize issues & meetings every 2 months
community metrics
=> jefro - work with board
Other group/meetup activities
openhatch, internship programs like opw
=> all - contribute to Stack Overflow support/discussions
next OEDAM concurrent with ELC in San Diego, March 2016
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DETAIL
Full text minutes available at: http://pastebin.com/jpAFDUCy or https://docs.google.com/document/d/16cueQXzrpvzhL7lzLiQxf5NZ4STYDffK0M3OLul0Fys/edit?usp=sharing
Full audio recording available on request (allow time for uploading)
