[OE-core] [RFC] recipes-efl inside meta-oe or meta-efl next to meta-oe?

Khem Raj raj.khem at gmail.com
Thu Mar 24 02:56:02 UTC 2011


On (23/03/11 23:53), Graeme Gregory wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 11:02:17PM +0000, Richard Purdie wrote:
> > On Wed, 2011-03-23 at 17:52 +0000, Graeme Gregory wrote:
> > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 04:03:04PM +0000, Joshua Lock wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 2011-03-23 at 15:40 +0000, Graeme Gregory wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 08:19:31AM -0700, Khem Raj wrote:
> > > > > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:49 AM, Koen Kooi <koen at dominion.thruhere.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'd like to import the EFL recipes Martin did from meta-shr into the meta-openembedded repo. Before I go bothering Martin about it, what would be the best place to put them?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Inside meta-oe:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > meta-openembedded/
> > > > > > >        meta-oe/
> > > > > > >                recipes-efl
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Can efl we layered directly on top of oe-core  ? i.e. without needing meta-oe
> > > > > > in that case its better to be an independent layer. otherwise I would say put
> > > > > > them under recipes-efl
> > > > > > 
> > > > > That is certainly not how I see layers being built up. I am expecting
> > > > > in future us to have things like.
> > > > > 
> > > > > meta-gnome
> > > > > meta-kde
> > > > > meta-efl
> > > > > meta-lxde
> > > > > meta-xorg
> > > > 
> > > > Me too, in fact I think this image from the Yocto Project website
> > > > succinctly portrays the goal:
> > > > http://www.yoctoproject.org/sites/default/files/yocto-layers_1.png
> > > > 
> > > > Possibly less the meta-yocto but you get the point.
> > > > 
> > > I hope not as thats a truly horrible diagram.
> > > 
> > > I dont think there is anyway in modern linux to produce a nice neat stack
> > > like that. Once you move beyond trivial images.
> > 
> > The diagram is idealised but I think the concepts there are valid, for
> > example, bring in the meta-linaro layer to use the linaro toolchain,
> > bring in a BSP layer for a particular piece of hardware support and so
> > forth. Certainly, a developer is likely to have local tweaks in a layer
> > of their own on top.
> > 
> > Why wouldn't that work?
> > 
> The diagram demonstrates a nice stack, but what about if you want two
> gui layers. Real life example, gnome and kde have cross dependencies on
> each other.
> 
> In a real system you just cant pile up a nice little stack of components. It
> works more like lego where you have multiple components that fit together
> depending on multiple components to hold them up.

from 36000ft then we could have three layers
kde, gnome, and kde-gnome-common and it would still comply to the
diagram in general

> 
> The diagram is overly idealised to the point of zero information, fit for
> marketing but not engineering.
> 
> Graeme
> 
> 
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