[oe] New palm environment

Alan Carvalho de Assis acassis at gmail.com
Sun Dec 3 22:10:37 UTC 2006


Hi Paul,
(sorry by pre-posting)

Do you know if exists some project or people trying to improve GTK performance?

I found it:
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4870

But it is old and based on GTK 1.2.

Alan

2006/12/3, Paul Sokolovsky <pmiscml at gmail.com>:
> Hello Alan,
>
>
>       [There were few cheerful replies, so let me show the other side
> of it, and do a bit of cold shower. Note that it's only rhetoric
> exercise - you will still do what you're bound to ;-) .]
>
>
> Saturday, December 2, 2006, 8:13:50 PM, you wrote:
>
> > Dear developers,
> > I want know if is of worth start a new project to develop a palm/phone
> > environment using FLTK toolkit.
>
>   No.
>
> > GPE and Opie are powerful projects, but some devices with small
> > footprint and slow processors don't work very well with it.
>
>   What makes you think they will work better with something else? More
> specifically, what makes you think they will work better with framework
> of the order of magnitude/scale as OPIE or GPE?
>
>   For example, do you think that OPIE/GPE authors set it as the aim to
> write fat slow frameworks? Or they have secret conspiracy to do it so?
> In this case, they are must be involved with proverbial Microsoft too
> - it has own UI system, by pretty different technology, but it shows
> the same problems!
>
> > This idea appeared when me and Vladimir (who ported Linux to Siemens
> > SX1 phone) are speaking about Qt/Embedded and GPE performance on SX1.
>
>   You know, such bright ideas appear to someone every other week ;-I.
> For example, another Vladimir (who ported PalmT3) just couldn't resist
> to start his own toy: http://hackndev.com/node/571 .
>
> > Some possible toolkit are: FLTK2, pixil or minigui. We think FLTK is a
> > good option, because it has some modern features and still small and
> > fast.
>
>   Now, that's interesting. *Some* modern features - I will trust your
> word, obviously, how could you expect for 2nd-rate GUI toolkit to
> provide all modern features? But fast - that's interesting. Do you
> have real-world profiling data with good interpretation, preferably,
> all yours? Or you trust FLTK authors by word too?
>
> > I want know what you think about it?
>
>   I think that spending time on optimizing existing full-fledged UI
> framework, like OPIE or GPE, would be much more beneficial for both
> persons who would do that, and for community. YMMV.
>
> > Cheers,
>
> > Alan
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Paul                            mailto:pmiscml at gmail.com
>
>


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