[oe] Mailinglists, was: Re: Bugtracker Status

Koen Kooi k.kooi at student.utwente.nl
Thu Feb 5 14:06:15 UTC 2009


On 23-01-09 12:06, Koen Kooi wrote:
> On 23-01-09 11:30, Valentin Longchamp wrote:
>> Otavio Salvador wrote:
>>> I propose to change the workflow a bit (and reuse few points you've
>>> proposed):
>>>
>>> 1. stop using bugtracker to handle patches
>>> 2. use mailing list to handle patches (comments bellow)
>>> 3. drop autobuilder bug reporting (comments bellow)
>>>
>>> Besides, I have no objection about your points 2.2 and 2.3 but I'm too
>>> new in the OE environment to comment about them so let me comment
>>> about my points:
>>>
>>> 1 and 2:
>>>
>>> We're trying to get more people to review the changes to be done in
>>> OE dev tree and bugzilla UI is horrible and difficult to use (at
>>> least for me). Most people ends up redoing someone else patch since
>>> we don't watch carefully the bugtrack.
>>>
>>> I propose we move to mailing list reviewing process mostly like Linux
>>> kernel does. We can use PatchWork
>>> (http://ozlabs.org/~jk/projects/patchwork/)
>>> tool to make our life easier. I see some pros for that:
>>>
>>> . people will get more review into the patches
>>> . people will be aware of ongoing work and what is being prepared to
>>> be merged
>>> . less forgotten patches
>>> . less duplicated work
>>>
>>> I also see a single con for that:
>>>
>>> . more mailing list traffic
>>>
>>
>> Even if I am not very much involved in the OE development, I completely
>> agree with Otavio. The few patches that I have proposed are often stuck
>> on the bugzilla. Maybe it would be better with a mailing-list.
>>
>> Furthermore, now that we use git, we have plenty of tools to send
>> patches to a mailing-list (format-patch, send-email and am).
>>
>> I would definitely support a patch review style like on the linux kernel
>> mailing-lists even if this implies a high-traffic list (with simple
>> filter rules in your mail client, it's easy to handle). However, I don't
>> think it would be a good idea to have two lists.
>
> I'd go even further by saying we should reorganize the mailinglists into
> this:
>
> * oe mailinglist for humans
> * combined commit + autobuild log list for non-humans
>
> That should reduce confusion which list to use (oe-user, oe-devel, etc)
> for sending mails and more people get to see patches flying by. Even if
> you don't review them having more code snippets on the list is usefull
> for newcomers.

15:01 < _boto> i have posted into issue ml
15:02 < _boto> i wondered that the rest of mails were created by bugzilla

No objections, only support for my proposal, so can this get implemented 
now?

regards,

Koen






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