[oe] [RFD] increased dependency checking

[Chris Larson]

On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Koen Kooi <k.kooi at student.utwente.nl>wrote:

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> On 28-08-10 16:55, Chris Larson wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Koen Kooi <k.kooi at student.utwente.nl
> >wrote:
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> >> As usual you're completely ignoring the impact of this when using
> >> package management, which is probably why you still are clueless why
> >> your openssl fiasco is so much work to fix for distro maintainers.
> >
> >
> > If someone is missing something, then explain it to them.  Whining and
> > calling people clueless does absolutely nothing for the project but
> alienate
> > developers.  If you need to take out your frustration, buy a punching
> bag,
> > don't do it on the mailing list, please.
>
> And Chris, you don't have much right to say anything about this, since I
> raised my frustration with all this to the TSC almost two weeks ago, and
> I have only heard from Holger something and like "I haven't followed OE
> the past months".


As a member of the project who cares about its image, I have plenty of room
to say anything I like.  The TSC hasn't met to discuss this, but the issue
has been raised with frans, by mickey if I recall correctly.


> I haven't heard anything else, so keep getting more and more frustrated
> by frans moving goal posts ("ack or nak", "nak with explanation" "only
> naks from flawless maintainers") with the TSC doing seemingly nothing.


I think it's perfectly reasonable to request an explanation with a NAK, and
I'm not the only one.


> I do *not* have the time to read oe-devel daily, nor to do proper test
> builds within a day. Especially not with the current mega patches posted
> for review. I must admit that them being posted for review is an
> improvement, but by the looks of it the respective maintainers don't get
> a say since they aren't doing a perfect job.


A say is fine, childish behavior and insults are not.  This isn't the first
time we've had to deal with this sort of behavior from you, and I'm sure it
won't be the last.
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Christopher Larson
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Founder - BitBake, OpenEmbedded, OpenZaurus
Maintainer - Tslib
Senior Software Engineer, Mentor Graphics