[oe] TSC meeting minutes 20100204

[Koen Kooi]

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TSC Meeting 20100204

Attendees: Chris, Graeme, Koen

Looking back a the past month the naming and shaming campaign for bad
commit messages seems to work well. People also seem to be able to solve
problems themselves instead of moving everything to the TSC.

The TSC also discussed where variable defaults should be and Chris is
going to start a wiki to form an idea on the scope of the cleanup and
gauge interest in a 'kernel janitors' type of project for it.

The TSC is also wondering what our userbase wants OE to be like and what
to focus on, but we need to find the right tools to ask such questions
first, the website vote method is just too passive.

On overriding default variables the TSC is very clear: we should try to
make it impossible to do things like PACKAGES = "of". An idea would be
to move the PACKAGES =+ -dbg, -dev, doc to e.g. package.bbclass. More
thought on this is needed.

The last two items discussed were new-style staging and packaged
staging. The TSC would like to *strongly* encourage people to move their
recipes to new style staging. If you are using packaged-staging with a
big TMPDIR (e.g. a few machines with big images built) legacy staging
will easily take more than 15 minutes per recipe because it scans
through the complete staging looking for changes.

The consensus in the TSC is that DISTROs are in charge of enabling
packaged-staging or not, but keeping the non-packaged-staging working
well is not a priority.

End of meeting

Postscript: Richard mentions that keeping non-packaged staging working
will be a major pain, so DISTRO maintainers should aim to enable it so
OE can move forward.
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