[oe] upstart vs. task-proper-tools

[Steffen Sledz]

Am 24.08.2011 17:14, schrieb Martin Jansa:
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 04:57:31PM +0200, Steffen Sledz wrote:
>> On 24.08.2011 16:45, Martin Jansa wrote:
>>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 04:34:06PM +0200, Steffen Sledz wrote:
>>>> On 24.08.2011 14:36, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote:
>>>>> W dniu 24.08.2011 14:31, Steffen Sledz pisze:
>>>>>> BTW: What is the exact meaning/purpose/use of task-proper-tools?
>>>>>
>>>>> Replace busybox components by full versions. Was made years ago and then updated by several people. While working for BugLabs company I used it to create rootfs without busybox.
>>>>>
>>>>>> The list contains a lot of tools with existing alternatives (e.g. syslog-ng vs. rsyslog or pump vs. dhcpcd).
>>>>>
>>>>> Then propose change which will allow to install one of them only at time?
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, but my knowledge is not sufficient to do this. I've no idea how to reference u-a related tools here.
>>>
>>> Why you don't remove task-proper-tools from your images RDEPENDS and add only tools you need which aren't provided by upstart?
>>
>> task-proper-tools is not directly in our image RDEPENDS but inherited via task-sdk-native (may be via others too).
> 
> then maybe it's time to propose removing it from task-sdk-native or add
> switch controlling if it should be included or not.

+1

>>> or use something like DISTRO_SYSLOG ?= "syslog-ng" in task-proper-tools
>>>
>>> and set DISTRO_SYSLOG = upstart for your distro if distro level granularity is fine for you (all supported images are using upstart).
>>
>> We do not have an own distro (we use angstrom). It's only a custom image.
>>
>> And the initial problem is sysvinit vs. upstart which are not u-a but need to be installed exclusively. If i'm right this is done by setting IMAGE_INIT_MANAGER. Can this variable used inside the task-proper-tools RDEPENDS?
> 
> No because you have one global task-proper-tools for different images
> (with possible different IMAGE_INIT_MANAGER values).


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