d p<br>
x x 25 march<br>
x x 10 apr f2f<br>
x ? 28 apr<br>
x x 5 may<br>
? ? 12 may<br>
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AGENDA: OpenEmbedded Technical Steering Committee, 28 April 2011
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___________________________________</div><div style="font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> 01) Agree on meeting chair</div><div style="font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<br></div><div style="font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">fray</div><div style="font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">___________________________________</div>
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<br></div><div style="font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">RP started branding transformation<br>
run through items needed before formal oe-core announcement<br>
big remaining pieces: distroless, srcrev removal from core files<br>
xorg imported into meta-oe, task-boot moved<br>
general agreement on git commits to a mailing list<br></div><div style="font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">___________________________________ </div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
</span><div style="font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">03) Status report on oe-core</div><div style="font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<br></div><div style="font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">action items:</div><div style="font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> general: encourage more distros to participate in oe-core</div>
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</span><div style="font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> general: invite more people to meta-oe on the oe-devel mailing list</div><div style="font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
interested parties: discuss documentation</div><div style="font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> //> RP to ping mwester re slugos<br>
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04) Status report on pull model, contrib repo and guidelines</div><div style="font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br></div><div style="font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
action items:</div><div style="font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> khem will try to write up how to use contrib repos</div><div style="font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Mark hopes to post commit/patch policy guidelines tomorrow, has feedback to incorporate</div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
</span><div style="font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> //doc is in third round, ** oe-tsc please read</div><div style="font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
//discussion re COO - fray will rework<br>
--> not much done here, defer to next week<br>
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</span><div style="font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> 05) Status report on board support layer guidelines</div><div style="font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<br></div><div style="font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">action items:</div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">--> </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3">document
whatever is decided with respect to repo hosting<br>
--> RP to send proposal to board<br>
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06) Status on layer splitting of metadata</div><div style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">
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ongoing<br>
<br></div><div style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">action items:</div><div style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> general: keep discussions going</div>
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07) DISTRO_FEATURE/MACHINE_FEATURE/libc features and other</div><div style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> "flags" discussion</div><div style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">
[ Proposed: Tom Rini ]</div><div style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">
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continue discussing<br>
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09) Continue discussions on infrastructure items</div><div style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><br></div><div style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">
action item:</div><div style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">--> Jefro: write a blurb describing bugzilla change for a TSC member to post</div>
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<div style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> 10) Last patchwork weekend for <a href="http://patchwork.or.org/" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 204);">patchwork.or.org</a> mid april.</div>
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After this weekend we should remove all patches from it and only</div><div style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">
use <a href="http://patches.openembedded.org/" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 204);">patches.openembedded.org</a> from now.</div><div style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">
<br></div><div style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">action item:</div>
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not much progress, defer to next week<br>
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new item: when does this meeting happen? (EU is now on DST)</div>
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new item: elections<br>
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will elect seats in order from the board announcement, or expand TSC to 6 members<br>
RP will ping board<br>
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RAW TRANSCRIPT</div>
<div style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><br></div><div style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#16569e">(1:00:40 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#16569e"><font size="3"> <b>Jefro:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> ...aaaand it's 1pm, and it looks like a quorum<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#16569e">(1:00:59 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#16569e"><font size="3"> <b>Jefro:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> does everyone have the agenda?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:01:22 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>koen:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> after you paste the URL :)<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#062585">(1:01:29 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#062585"><font size="3"> <b>***koen</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> is not on his own computer, no mail<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#16569e">(1:02:10 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#16569e"><font size="3"> <b>Jefro:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> 1 sec<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:02:17 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> First up we need a chair<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:02:51 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> Any volunteers? I think I did the last meeting at the f2f<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:03:05 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> I can if there is a lack of volunteers.. :)<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:03:20 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> fray: so you volunteered ;)<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#062585">(1:03:27 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#062585"><font size="3"> <b>***RP__</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> hands fray an extra couple of legs<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:03:54 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> Second item is "Followup on F2F meeting at ELC"<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#16569e">(1:03:56 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#16569e"><font size="3"> <b>Jefro:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> gmail is not behaving for me today, sorry for delay<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:04:11 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> Jefro: I'll paste them until you get sorted<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:04:16 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> is this the same agenda as 21-Apr meeting that didn't happen?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:04:32 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> fray: I suspect so<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#16569e">(1:04:35 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#16569e"><font size="3"> <b>Jefro:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> <a href="http://pastebin.com/5pdtuwN8">http://pastebin.com/5pdtuwN8</a><br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:04:36 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> I couldn't find a different one<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:04:40 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> ok.. I'll assume it is until corrected..<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#16569e">(1:04:40 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#16569e"><font size="3"> <b>Jefro:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> yes, it is the same one<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#16569e">(1:04:58 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#16569e"><font size="3"> <b>Jefro:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> ** meeting chair is fray<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:05:04 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> stefan_schmidt: Did you have any questions about the ELC meeting?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:05:05 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> ok then.. we selected a chair.. on to #2.. F2F follow up<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:05:20 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> stefan_schmidt: I'm singling you out since you weren't there ;-)<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:05:39 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> RP__: not about the meeting notes but about the hacking/sprint you did<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:05:50 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> RP__: Did most of the AI git tackled there?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:05:57 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> It seemed a lot in the minutes...<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:06:05 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> thats what i was just going to ask.. :)<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:06:31 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> Good question - I'm not sure where we stand on the various AIs<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:06:35 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3">
RP__: Its a real pity that I could not make it. But that was the last
exam. Only diploma thesis is ongoing now and then I'm free ;)<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:06:37 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> I know I started the branding transformation<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:06:50 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> stefan_schmidt: cool :)<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:06:50 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> yeah, seen that on the ml<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:07:13 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> Jefro, do we have a specific action item list from the F2F?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:07:24 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> RP__: I arranged it that the deadline is right before ELC-E :D<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:07:26 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> I know for the hacking we went through the things in person on RP's system..<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#062585">(1:07:35 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#062585"><font size="3"> <b>***RP__</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> is on vacation this week do hasn't been as active wrt changes<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:07:52 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> stefan_schmidt: nice, so you'll be free for the conference :)<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#16569e">(1:07:54 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#16569e"><font size="3"> <b>Jefro:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> <a href="http://pastebin.com/5wPn3YrT">http://pastebin.com/5wPn3YrT</a> contains the action items from the F2F<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:07:59 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>koen:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> I was planning to bribe saul to sneak in some stuff, but RP still checks his mail<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:08:07 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> fray: All the stuff we discussed on my machine is merged<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:08:26 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> koen: I'm not daft ;-)<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:08:37 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3">
RP__ ok.. that I think we need to (each) run though whats there and
verify it looks good.. if so we may be ready for the more formal come
and play announcement<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:08:55 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> I tried to highlight the remaining work that was needed<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:09:07 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>koen:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> xorg has been imported, task-boot moved<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:09:12 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> fray: I specifically called you out to remove the pokyisms from the rpm/zypper bits<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:09:35 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> RP__ ok..I'll note that and get on it ASAP.. (hopefully it'll be resolved before you are done w/ vacation)<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:10:17 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3">
fray: shouldn't be difficult but you know the code pieces better and
you might find you want to reconsolidate some of the patches or
something<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:10:45 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3">
ok, anything further on this? my take is we're in pretty good shape.. a
bit of work remains, and we should all look and verify what is there is
what we wanted<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:10:55 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> anything else on 2?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:11:02 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> koen: When you say xorg imported, you mean to meta-oe or you mean meta-oe and oe-core are in sync?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:11:10 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>koen:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> into meta-oe<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:11:12 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> I think other important items will come later on the agenda anyway<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:11:16 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>koen:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> it's not in sync with oe-core<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:11:24 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>koen:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> martin and I are looking at it<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:11:25 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> koen: ok<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:11:29 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>koen:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> top down, so gtk+ first<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:12:00 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> The big remaining piece is the distroless operation<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:12:06 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> from the branding PoV<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:12:14 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>koen:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> right<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:12:24 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>koen:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> and that's related to the global srcrev as well, right?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:12:32 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> I'm waiting on Ke to do the SRCREV removal from the core files, yes<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:13:07 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> Ok, so this is leading into 03 - Status report on oe-core<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:13:20 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3">
general: encourage more distros to participate in oe-core general:
invite more people to meta-oe on the oe-devel mailing list interested
parties: discuss documentation<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:13:40 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> Are we ready to invite people or do we need to make any further checks/changes?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:13:45 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> RP, ya.. lets move onto 3 and come back to 2 if needed..<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:14:03 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>koen:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> some people are already confused by the meta-oe patches sent to oe-dev<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:14:09 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3">
One general point that pops up into my mind is that I have a bit of a
problem to follow the massive amount of changes that come in<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:14:10 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3">
I just want a quick once over on the stuff.. I've looked at about half
of the stuff there (rest of the day is all I need) and I'll be happy I
think<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:14:30 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> No idea what we can do against it, but its hard to follow if you only can spare some hours a week for it<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:14:34 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> stefan_schmidt: worse than OE?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:14:42 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> RP__: it feels worse, yes<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:14:50 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> Suggestion.. unless someone finds a problem, we will release the invite on Friday or Monday?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:14:58 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> RP__: Not the changes itself. They are pretty good normally<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:14:58 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>koen:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> the amount is fine, but some really big changes go in without much notice<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:15:06 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> Is this because of the posting patches on the mailing list problem or do we really have more changes?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:15:09 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>koen:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> like the change that does s/-/_/ on machine names<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:15:14 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>koen:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> that one was *nasty*<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:15:16 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>Tartarus:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> need a git commit list<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:15:17 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> Its just so many things. As I said no real idea how to improve this<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:15:20 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>Tartarus:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> or added to existing<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:15:25 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>koen:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> and broke feeds for every machine with a '-'<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:15:45 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> koen: Did those machines work at all anyway? The assumption was they couldn't have been working? :/<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:15:53 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>koen:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> I know yocto doesn't care about feeds or upgrade paths, but that one was crazy<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:16:05 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> RP__: maybe because of the patches. Can't say to much yet. It was more a feeling I got over time<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:16:10 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>koen:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> RP__: yes, they worked, omap4430-panda was the first machine I tested on<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:16:11 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> koen: We do care actually, I didn't realise there was a problem there<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:16:53 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> koen: I can only apologise and try not to do that again, sorry<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#062585">(1:17:34 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#062585"><font size="3"> <b>***RP__</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> does feel the review process for patches is working well to keep quality etc, I'm not sure if everyone agrees?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:17:53 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>koen:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> it's tons better than what OE has<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:18:10 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> I see more eyes paying attention.. so I think it's been a win<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#062585">(1:18:20 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#062585"><font size="3"> <b>***koen</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> needs to write some 'opkg upgrade' tests for opentest to catch things like this<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:18:33 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> I'm quite happy. It always can be improved thought. But that will happen over time<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:18:43 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> koen: We should find a way to test some of it with the autobuilder too<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:19:02 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> stefan_schmidt: it can always be improved, yes :)<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:19:13 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> Ok, so are we ready to invite people or not?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:19:18 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> Is anyone not ready?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:19:35 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> I'd like another 2 hours to look.. but everything I've seen so far says we're ready<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#062585">(1:19:37 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#062585"><font size="3"> <b>***RP__</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> will be spending more time back at work from Tuesday next week<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:19:57 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>Tartarus:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> So, again<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:19:57 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> Lets wait until RP is back and then invite more people<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:20:01 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>Tartarus:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> git commits going to an ML:?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:20:03 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> for last minute fixes :)<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:20:03 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>Tartarus:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> existing or new<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:20:05 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>Tartarus:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> i don't care<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:20:06 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> Until then I will not be around too much, I'm not sure if that matters much ro not<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:20:07 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>Tartarus:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> but it's a must<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:20:09 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>koen:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> from the active distros in OE we only need slugos<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:20:31 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> Tartarus: Which repo, OE-Core?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:20:39 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> Tartarus: I would like a commit list as well. Don't care where though<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:20:42 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>Tartarus:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> and meta-oe<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:21:00 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>koen:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> we could funnel all "important" layers commits there<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:21:01 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> same mailing list or separate?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:21:08 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>Tartarus:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> same is fine<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:21:12 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>Tartarus:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> and would help encourage migration<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:21:23 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> OE infrastructure probably makes more sense that Yocto?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:21:47 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> koen: Is slugos still run by Rod?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:21:55 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> RP__: mwester I think<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:22:09 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> RP__: rod is mostly webos-internals nowadays<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:22:18 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> has anyone talked to mwester?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:22:47 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>Tartarus:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> only vaguely a while ago<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:23:07 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> koen: do you have much contact there?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:23:33 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>koen:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> only with Tom King<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:23:54 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>Tartarus:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> mwester is around #oe on the weekends<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:24:24 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> ok, any volunteers to talk to him about this on behalf of the TSC?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:24:52 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> and I'm assuming an OE-commits list would go down better. Next question is who has list admin powers?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:25:20 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> and then who has access to the git user to create post-update hooks<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#062585">(1:25:32 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#062585"><font size="3"> <b>***stefan_schmidt</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> has neither<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#16569e">(1:25:54 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#16569e"><font size="3"> <b>Jefro:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> RP__ were there any volunteers to talk to mwester?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:25:59 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>koen:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> RP__: the complete tsc should have repo admin, no?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#16569e">(1:26:03 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#16569e"><font size="3"> <b>Jefro:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> just want to give an owner to the action item<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:26:17 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> koen: This isn't repo admin, you need ssh access<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:26:24 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>Tartarus:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> khem usually does this stuff<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:26:35 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>Tartarus:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> assign in absentia until he acks or nacks?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:26:41 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>Tartarus:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> naks even<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:26:42 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> I think that makes sense<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#062585">(1:26:55 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#062585"><font size="3"> <b>***RP__</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> doesn't have the hook access<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:27:05 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> or list admin access for that matter<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:27:25 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> ok, we ask khem and if that fails we talk to CLiff<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:27:27 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> or Tom<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:27:39 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> (King)<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:28:07 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> For mwester, I can vounteer to talk to him but it would be next weekend, not this weekend as I'll be away from computers<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:28:28 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> I don't think we are in a rush here<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:29:03 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> fray: time for 4) ? :)<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:29:11 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> ok.. sounds good 4 it is..<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:29:24 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3">
04) Status report on pull model, contrib repo and guidelines action
items: khem will try to write up how to use contrib repos Mark hopes
to post commit/patch policy guidelines tomorrow, has feedback to
incorporate //doc is in third round, ** oe-tsc please read
//discussion re COO - fray will rework<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:29:33 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> commit guidelines status from me.. I'm delinquent.. but I did get some more feedback..<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:29:49 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> Did Khem do a writeup?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:29:57 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> Jefro: Did we pull any of the Yocto pieces together?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:30:06 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> Saul sent some info about a desire to add a status to patches to indicate if it was contributed upstream or not..<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:30:29 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> We need to pull all the Yocto and OE pieces of this together<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#16569e">(1:30:30 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#16569e"><font size="3"> <b>Jefro:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> RP__ still working on that - many fires burning. we have some policies up now, some still in proces.<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:30:35 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3">
Does anyone have any comments if thats desired or not within the
context of OE-Core? (I told him nothing in the policy prevents that,
but it wasn't a requirement -- yet)<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#16569e">(1:30:52 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#16569e"><font size="3"> <b>Jefro:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> khem, if you'd like we can sync after this meeting<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:31:03 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> fray: I would like to see such a tag.<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:31:16 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> fray: I'm ok with making it a strong recommendation for OE-Core<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:31:18 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> send upstream / not upstreamable, etc<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:31:21 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> ok.. I'll add it to the proposal when I finally wrap everything up..<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:31:37 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> stefan, ya.. I don't remember the exact items off hand.. but it's something like that..<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:31:42 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> We have so many patches lying around that would get clearer through this<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:31:45 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> it's a very useful tag to determine what is lacking upstream<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#062585">(1:31:56 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#062585"><font size="3"> <b>***RP__</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> agrees<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:32:06 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> ok.. on to 5 then?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:32:10 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> and often you find a better way while dealing with upstream for your hack :)<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:32:32 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>koen:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> gobject-introspection patches :)<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:32:47 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>koen:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> my bugreport is still open after how many years now?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:32:55 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> koen: There has been movement on that though<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:33:13 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>koen:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> yeah, josh and I have been talking about it recently<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:33:31 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> fray: yes, BSPs<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:33:49 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> We've talked a lot of about BSPs both at the f2f and the Yocto meetings<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:34:01 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>Tartarus:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> brb<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:34:19 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> any real outcome?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:34:24 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> I think there is general consensus that BSPs in one place together, even if some of them are mirrors<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:34:32 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> yup<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:34:34 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> is desirable<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:34:57 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>koen:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> bsp and layers even<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:35:04 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> koen: right<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:35:30 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> anything else on BSPs, other then we have a direction we want to go?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:35:53 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> I think technically, the best solution might be to run both <a href="http://git.yoctoproect.org">git.yoctoproect.org</a> and <a href="http://git.openembedded.org">git.openembedded.org</a> off the same server with different "windows" on the repos<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:36:18 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> Like <a href="http://git.yoctoproject.org">git.yoctoproject.org</a> and <a href="http://git.pokylinux.org">git.pokylinux.org</a> are today (but the lists of repos can differ)<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:36:23 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>Tartarus:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> back<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:36:45 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> all in one place sounds got. Everything else get people nuts.<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:37:19 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3">
Yocto is about to move some servers around. I'd suggest we come back to
this in 2-3 weeks once the new yocto web/git server is established<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:37:23 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> Personally I don't care on what server they are. More important is that it is clearly documented where.<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:37:36 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> stefan_schmidt: agreed<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#16569e">(1:37:55 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#16569e"><font size="3"> <b>Jefro:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> action item: document whatever is decided with respect to repo hosting. owner?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:38:18 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> Jefro: I'll take it and I'll send a proposal from the TSC to the members/board<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#16569e">(1:38:30 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#16569e"><font size="3"> <b>Jefro:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> got it, thanks<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:38:50 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> but we are deliberately waiting a few weeks on this one, not pushing it<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#16569e">(1:39:10 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#16569e"><font size="3"> <b>Jefro:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> RP__ understood; I'll just make sure to track it<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:39:16 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> item 6?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:39:18 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>koen:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> that reminds me, what's the status on getting yocto people to join the e.V.?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:39:19 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> Jefro: thanks<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:39:36 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> We should ping the board to send out a call for members<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:39:50 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> Ya, I need/want to join the e.V.<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#062585">(1:40:20 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#062585"><font size="3"> <b>***RP__</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> has sent an email to the board<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:40:58 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> 06) Status on layer splitting of metadata<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:41:02 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> ok.. 06 then.. status on layer splitting of metadata<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:41:08 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> I think this is ongoing jsut fine<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:41:23 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> based on the items before I'd say it continues to make progress<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:41:35 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> 07 - We're doing a bad job of discussing it :(<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:41:50 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> RP__ yes we are.. but the F2F helped..<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:42:08 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> summary as I remember it.. we want distro and machine features..<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:42:41 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3">
lots of individual features we don't want unless they are encapsulated
in an individual recipe... and they all need a way to be docuemnted and
ccontroled.. (did I summarize that right?)<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#16569e">(1:43:23 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#16569e"><font size="3"> <b>Jefro:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> fray that seems to jive with the notes I took<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:43:28 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> (there is no 08)<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:43:35 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> 09 - infrastructure items<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:43:58 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> I think we touched on the pressing infrastructure issues above<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:43:59 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> ?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:44:16 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> yup, nothing else?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#062585">(1:44:20 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#062585"><font size="3"> <b>***Jefro</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> 's action item still not done for 09<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:44:44 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> I think the oestats / tinderbox interests joined already and are on the yocto 1.1 agenda<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:44:57 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> at least I saw Jay7 and Tom noted there<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:45:29 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> for 10: Weekend was done without much progress<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:45:45 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> I will make an backup of the patches and then talk to Tom King to shut it down<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:45:57 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> about what was expected?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:46:00 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> Nobody complained on the ml whcih I take as an "do it" :)<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:46:19 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> :)<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:46:32 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> stefan_schmidt: Sounds like the way it usually goes :/<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:46:34 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> fray: I did not expect much. Just a sign that the old patchwork does not contain any interested stuff anymore :)<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:46:47 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> yup..<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:46:55 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> RP__: well, we have to deal with it. Backup and shutdown. :)<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:47:01 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> then the last item was meeting time..<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:47:45 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> iirc, Koen couldn't make Mondays?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:47:52 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> stefan_schmidt: agreed<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:47:55 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>Tartarus:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> I guess this is as good a time as we'll get<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:48:04 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>Tartarus:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> unless khem really can't do 1pm his time<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:48:12 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> I'm free at this meeting time or earlier if better<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:48:14 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> I have to admit this meeting time isn't that good for me<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:48:15 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>koen:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> right, no mondays<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:48:34 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>Tartarus:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> Earlier push this to noon out west which might be even worse for khem and jefro<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:48:39 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> "isn't good" meaning that I'm now working 3 18 hour days a week<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:48:41 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>Tartarus:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> i do irregular and at home anyhow lunches so it's less a problem<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:49:03 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>Tartarus:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> RP__, but is there a better day/time for you other than monday?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:49:31 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> Tartarus: Well, any day with a morning meeting US time would be better but that wasn't possible for Khem iirc<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:49:53 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> I guess there is one thing we should put on the agenda too - election of the TSC<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:49:57 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>Tartarus:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> Did he fill out the meeting avail poll thing we did?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#16569e">(1:49:57 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#16569e"><font size="3"> <b>Jefro:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> noon thurs works for me<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:50:13 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>Tartarus:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> RP__, yeah 1st one is coming up<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#16569e">(1:50:15 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#16569e"><font size="3"> <b>Jefro:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> RP__ notes agenda item for next meeting<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:50:17 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>Tartarus:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> Is that khem?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:50:22 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> RP__ ya, I was going to mention that as well<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:50:25 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>Tartarus:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> i dug it up a month ago<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:50:27 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> Tartarus: yes, he couldn't do the 8, 9 or 10 PST slots :(<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:50:46 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>Tartarus:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> 11a PST would be OK here<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:50:55 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>Tartarus:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> But that's lunch time for fray?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:51:18 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> don't worry about lunch for me.. I'm flexible<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:52:27 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> I guess with elections coming up we should see who ends up here then worry about this<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#062585">(1:52:32 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#062585"><font size="3"> <b>***Jefro</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> has a conflict at 11am PDT (note PDT right now UTC-7, not PST)<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:52:48 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> Did we decide what order we were doing elections in?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:53:03 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> the order that the original annoucnement was in was decided<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:53:13 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> (first meeting minutes should verify that)<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:53:18 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> and did we set a date for the first one?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:53:25 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> not that I remember<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:53:34 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>Tartarus:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> I think so, roughly any how<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:53:45 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> I think it was "May"<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:53:55 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>Tartarus:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> As well<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:53:58 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> and the every two months or was it three?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:54:06 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>koen:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> every 2<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:54:09 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> every 2<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:54:17 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>koen:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> and iirc someone volunteered to go first<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:54:29 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>koen:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> but I forget who<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:54:30 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> I thoguth it was May or June.. but I couldn't remember which<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:54:32 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>Tartarus:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> khem, iirc<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:54:39 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>Tartarus:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> or it was order listed in the original email<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:54:54 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>koen:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> the first one to step down doesn't trigger a (re)election<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:55:02 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>koen:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> unless we expand to 6 permanent seats<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:55:16 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> > Election wise, we'll elect the seats in the order from the board<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:55:17 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> > announcement email until we have 5 elected members. We will rely on the<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:55:17 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> > board to call the first election in May.<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:55:54 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> yup.. that matches my memory<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:57:00 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> ok.. so was there a concensus on meeting time, or we keep it at the same time until there is?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:57:07 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> 1) Khem Raj 2) Koen Kooi 3) Mark Hatle 4) Richard Purdie 5) Stefan Schmidt 6) Tom Rini<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:57:22 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>Tartarus:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> fray i think we're keeping it for now<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:57:23 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> keep as it is for the moment I think although I'm fine with an earlier slot<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:57:29 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> fray: I think we would need khem to change it...<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:57:43 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> ok.. on the time<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:57:46 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> right, we need Khem here to have this conversation I think<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:57:56 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> for the election stuff.. should we remind the board or will they handle it?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:58:05 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> I will ping them<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:58:09 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> ok..<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:58:20 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> (BTW I'm not against expanding the size of the TSC..)<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:58:39 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> the group of folks working on this stuff seem to be working very well together..<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:59:12 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> fray: I think it was odd for making a decision<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:59:20 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> and with that.. times up.. anything else to discuss?<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(1:59:32 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> (stefan, ya I agree but so far it's not been an issue)<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#062585">(1:59:38 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#062585"><font size="3"> <b>***stefan_schmidt</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> has nothing more and is ready for bed anyway...<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#062585">(1:59:48 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#062585"><font size="3"> <b>***Jefro</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> notes meeting ending on time, watching carefully for fractures in the structure of the universe<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#062585">(2:00:04 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#062585"><font size="3"> <b>***fray</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> says meeting over..<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(2:00:05 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> Jefro: I just have them in my kitchen ;-)<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(2:00:09 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>stefan_schmidt:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> night folks<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#062585">(2:00:13 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#062585"><font size="3"> <b>***fray</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> goes back to looking at oe-core and OS X... ;)<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#16569e">(2:00:15 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#16569e"><font size="3"> <b>Jefro:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> RP__ LOL I knew it<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2">(2:00:20 PM)</font><b style="font-size: 13px;"><font size="3"> stefan_schmidt left the room (quit: Quit: Leaving).</font></b><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"><br></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#062585">(2:00:30 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#062585"><font size="3"> <b>***RP__</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> goes back to looking for patches for the air bed<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(2:00:39 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>fray:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> heh<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#062585">(2:00:52 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#062585"><font size="3"> <b>***RP__</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> has seen them recently, that is the annoying thing<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#a82f2f">(2:01:11 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#a82f2f"><font size="3"> <b>RP__:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> It I can't find them I'll have to resort to grab adhesive<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#16569e">(2:01:46 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#16569e"><font size="3"> <b>Jefro:</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> duct tape is your friend<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2">(2:01:52 PM)</font><b style="font-size: 13px;"><font size="3"> Tartarus left the room.</font></b><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"><br></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="2"><font color="#062585">(2:14:58 PM)</font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" color="#062585"><font size="3"> <b>***RP__</b></font></font><font style="font-size: 13px;" size="3"> settles on superglue</font></div>
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