<div><div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">OpenEmbedded Technical Steering Committee</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">28 February, 2012</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">Attending: Khem, Richard, Mark, Paul</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">Apologies: Tom</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">Minutes: Jefro</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">________________________________________________</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">Agenda</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">1. pick a chair</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse"> RP (by default)</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">2. open issues</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse"> resolved at ELC, only status is left</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">3. status</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse"> a. oe-core</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse"> lots of churn, patches coming in heavily</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse"> RP thinks most things merged</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse"> b. python 3 transition</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse"> going slowly</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse"> c. bitbake quoting fix merged, now enforce syntax, e.g. FOO = "1"</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse"> d. khem worked on some wiki pages last week</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse"> e. hobv2 merged, please play with it</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse"> f. 4.7 upgrade not yet posted (khem), hold until after April release</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse"> g. agreement on toolchain issue:</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse"> toolchains not in oe-core will be split out into their own layers,</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse"> including toolchains in meta-oe</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse"> h. collab summit, bsp summit</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse"> coming up in April</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">________________________________________________</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">Raw Transcript</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:00:04 AM) bluelightning: hi folks</span></font></div><div>
<font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:02:12 AM) RP__: hi bluelightning</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:02:16 AM) RP__: hi khem</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:02:19 AM) RP__: fray: ping?</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:02:35 AM) khem: hi RP__</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:02:37 AM) RP__: I think I saw an email saying Tom couldn't make it?</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:02:38 AM) fray: hey I'm here..</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:02:44 AM) fray: ya, he's out</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:02:48 AM) khem: I will grab a cup of tea</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:02:57 AM) RP__: cool, we have everyone who will be here then</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:02:58 AM) khem: too many police officers on road today :)</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:03:32 AM) ***fray is really sick last couple of days.. at least the room stopped spinning finally</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:03:45 AM) ***fray 's temper is a bit short though.. :(</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:04:49 AM) RP__: fray: Sorry to hear that, I hope you have a swift recovery</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:05:00 AM) RP__: Jefro: do we have an agenda?</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:05:18 AM) fray: so do I.. I'm supposed to give an intro to Yocto talk and hands-on w/ Poky class at RTECC in Dallas next tuesday.. :P</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:06:15 AM) RP__: fray: I'm just getting stressed out by the amount of stuff I need to do before I go away on Saturday</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:06:35 AM) ***RP__ found water all over the garage floor before. Seems to be coming from the Daytona which is scary</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:06:45 AM) fray: I understand.. I was supposed to have the hard drive prepared for imaging yesterday..</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:06:54 AM) RP__: Does anyone have topics for discussion?</span></font></div><div>
<font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:06:57 AM) fray: needless to say, I'm still working on it.. (I was completely useless on Sunday and Montday)</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:07:00 AM) fray: I don't have anything</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:07:15 AM) fray: did we want to mention the wiki day? (do we want to schedule that yet?)</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:07:24 AM) khem: I dont have any pressing topics</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:07:28 AM) RP__: I think it would be good to give people some notice</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:07:37 AM) RP__: Sometime after next week though! ;-)</span></font></div><div>
<font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:07:41 AM) khem: 2 weeks would be good time</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:07:43 AM) fray: yes</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:07:57 AM) fray: we said mid march in the ELC meetings</span></font></div><div>
<font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:08:12 AM) RP__: so that all approximately fits together</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:08:22 AM) RP__: who is going to send out a proposal?</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:08:51 AM) bluelightning: I can do it</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:09:55 AM) Jefro: sorry - fell of the net again (*)&%</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:10:00 AM) RP__: bluelightning: thanks</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:10:20 AM) Jefro: we actually fulfilled the major topics at the f2f, status is all we have to discuss today</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:10:28 AM) RP__: Jefro: thanks</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:10:40 AM) RP__: We've had a lot of churn with the patches coming in rather heavily</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:10:45 AM) RP__: I think most things have merged</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:11:00 AM) RP__: I know there are some patches from Khem I've not taken yet and need to discuss in more detail</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:11:39 AM) RP__: There are some cleanups I would like to make such as the ", 1" -> ", True" substituition, use appendVar in places and so on</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:12:06 AM) khem: RP__: is there plan to go for python 3.x for bitbake</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:12:08 AM) RP__: I don't seem to manage to find time to get to those though and a merge window is a bad time due to the amount of patches that would fail to apply</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:12:18 AM) fray: yup</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:12:30 AM) RP__: khem: we've done a lot of the ground work so far</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:12:36 AM) RP__: khem: so its being worked on slowly</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:12:49 AM) khem: ok.</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:12:50 AM) fray: we should investigate bitbake w/ python 3 after the current release cycle..</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:12:59 AM) fray: just to get any idea how close (or not) we are..</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:13:24 AM) ***RP__ agrees</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:13:33 AM) RP__: I also merged the bitbake quoting fix</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:13:44 AM) RP__: nbbody was going to fix things until I did :/</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:14:02 AM) fray: which quoting fix?</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:14:11 AM) ***bluelightning has already added a note on quoting to the metadata migration wiki page, FYI</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:14:21 AM) khem: Generally bitbake's error recovery sucks a bit imo</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:14:38 AM) khem: I did touch some wiki page's last week</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:14:48 AM) khem: to mention about oe-core/oe-dev</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:14:54 AM) RP__: fray: We now enforce FOO = "1"</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:14:56 AM) bluelightning: khem: I'd like to think we've improved error handling quite a bit lately, are there any outstanding error situations you can point to?</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:14:57 AM) khem: one of the page was getting started page</span></font></div><div>
<font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:15:01 AM) fray: ahh ok</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:15:02 AM) RP__: fray: FOO = 1 wont' work</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:15:13 AM) fray: excellent</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:15:19 AM) RP__: khem: I think bitbake's error handling has massively improved thanks to Paul's work</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:15:37 AM) khem: RP__: I agree on that it has improved</span></font></div><div>
<font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:15:39 AM) RP__: Or my favourite: FOO = "1 \</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:15:43 AM) bluelightning: if I've missed anything by all means highlight it so I can attack it :)</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:15:48 AM) RP__: with a following blank line</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:16:01 AM) RP__: khem: right, if you see issues, file bugs</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:16:02 AM) bluelightning: RP__: yes that's a nice one... never realised that was legal...</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:16:12 AM) RP__: bluelightning: it wasn't meant to be legal</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:16:49 AM) khem: multiline strings and multiline comments are tricky even C compilers sucked in past on them</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:17:38 AM) RP__: So anything else we need to talk about</span></font></div><div>
<font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:17:41 AM) RP__: ?</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:17:53 AM) RP__: We should be going into a bit of a stability/bug fixing drive now</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:18:04 AM) bluelightning: I've got nothing, most of my long-pending patches are getting merged finally :)</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:18:08 AM) RP__: also,hobv2 merged</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:18:14 AM) RP__: people should play with it :)</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:18:25 AM) Jefro: I can chime in with one thing - the Yocto event at Collab Summit. Philip mentioned that he'd like to have several OE folks there.</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:18:28 AM) fray: ahh I knew hobv2 was going in soon, but it's there now?</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:18:31 AM) ***RP__ has a stack of patches outstanding :(</span></font></div><div>
<font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:18:44 AM) RP__: fray: its in</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:18:54 AM) fray: excellent!</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:18:56 AM) RP__: fray: run "hob"</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:19:03 AM) khem: RP__: I have a working gcc 4.7 which is uncovering interting bugs</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:19:15 AM) khem: so I will post fixes as I see and fix them</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:19:29 AM) RP__: khem: I've held off the gcc patch just yet until I can have more of a look at it</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:19:36 AM) khem: sure.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:19:48 AM) khem: I did not post 4.7 upgrade yet</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:19:53 AM) RP__: khem: we should try and push some of these fixes direct to the upstreams</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:19:56 AM) khem: since I wanted the prework to first go in</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:20:12 AM) khem: RP__: yes, true</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:20:30 AM) RP__: khem: right, I'd really like to hold 4.7 on a branch until after the April release</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:20:36 AM) fray: is 4.7 "stable" release out yet? or any idea when it will be?</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:20:40 AM) khem: nooo</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:20:47 AM) khem: its a prework</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:21:02 AM) fray: I'm almost say a toolchain layer until 4.7 can be merged.. maybe a toolchain-next layer?</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:21:09 AM) RP__: khem: I know but we are supposed to be entering a stablisation window at this point</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:21:14 AM) khem: so we can use it offficially the same day its released and help gcc find and fix some bugs in return</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:21:32 AM) khem: RP__: that noo was meant for fray</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:21:57 AM) RP__: fray: I think a branch should be ok</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:22:02 AM) fray: ya, I thought 4.7 was still too far off to consider it for right now</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:22:16 AM) khem: RP__: the reason I did not post 4.7 patches is same</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:22:23 AM) bluelightning: I forgot to ask people; were there significant discussions at ELC about oe-core/meta-oe reorg that are worth discussing here?</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:22:37 AM) khem: I wanted prework to be in there so folks can then use the 4.7 branch to try it out</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:22:40 AM) ***RP__ wasn't party to those</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:22:56 AM) khem: bluelightning: I talked a bit</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:22:57 AM) RP__: khem: I agree we should put it somewhere obvious so people can try it</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:22:59 AM) khem: with koen</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:23:11 AM) khem: RP__: master-next ?</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:23:17 AM) khem: oh well a contrib branch is ok too</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:23:39 AM) bluelightning: khem: ah ok... I talked to him at FOSDEM about it as well, took some notes... haven't had a chance to formulate a coherent plan yet</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:23:50 AM) khem: bluelightning: I think we should keep the discussion about sprilling meta-oe going</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:23:52 AM) RP__: khem: it might be appropriate for master-next, yes</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:24:12 AM) bluelightning: khem: definitely... we have a tentative plan I think from our existing discussion</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:24:25 AM) bluelightning: (on the mailing list)</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:24:30 AM) khem: I think, I did some work on oe-core/meta-oe duplication but thats pretty much it</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:24:55 AM) bluelightning: khem: yes I saw that, thanks for that work :)</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:25:32 AM) khem: biggest issue is toolchain for many folks</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:25:41 AM) khem: so I think that should be the first one to be spun out</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:25:50 AM) RP__: khem: people want 4.5?</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:26:01 AM) khem: RP__: angstrom stable uses it</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:26:11 AM) khem: and angstrom uses for long cycles</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:26:15 AM) RP__: khem: with no plans to update?</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:26:25 AM) khem: so I am expecting it to be in use for couple of years from now at least</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:26:57 AM) khem: RP__: I think once meta-oe releases then there would be a chance to have 2012 angstrom</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:27:10 AM) bluelightning: is there still concern about arm in gcc > 4.5 ? or was that never a serious issue?</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:27:55 AM) khem: bluelightning: no idea. I think gcc 4.5 is stable and angstrom does not like to tinker with toolchain too much</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:28:08 AM) bluelightning: ok</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:28:33 AM) fray: but would anyone use 4.5 with an updated oe-core?</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:28:46 AM) fray: I'd expect that if you stay with an older toolchain, you'd also stay with an older oe-core/angstrom</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:28:51 AM) bluelightning: fray: well, angstrom does right now...</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:28:51 AM) khem: so far angstrom has been doing that yes</span></font></div><div>
<font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:29:12 AM) khem: usually its not a problem</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:29:17 AM) fray: that very well could be a distro choice, so we need to enable the ability to do it.. but do we need it in oe-core itself?</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:29:39 AM) khem: its not in oe-core</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:29:44 AM) khem: its in meta-oe</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:29:49 AM) fray: ohh ok, I misunderstood then</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:30:02 AM) khem: same is true for eglibc 2.12</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:30:13 AM) bluelightning: fray: it's in meta-oe, but what would make it easier is if it was in its own layer (which may well be in the meta-openembedded repo still)</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:30:27 AM) fray: yes, I agree..</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:30:29 AM) khem: and I would love to see X11 from meta-oe/oe-core merge</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:30:44 AM) fray: at Wind River we have a tendency to make our toolchains into layers, so they are easily replacable (upgradeable)..</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:31:12 AM) khem: fray: yes we should have done it to start with but we were so new to layers we were afraid of them :)</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:31:42 AM) RP__: khem: X11?</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:31:45 AM) fray: well there is the fine line between not enough layers and too many.. ;)</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:31:51 AM) RP__: khem: I thought we had most X11 things sorted now?</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:32:07 AM) fray: I didn't realize that meta-oe had anything unique for X11 anymore..</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:32:18 AM) RP__: I think splitting the toolchain pieces in meta-oe apart is a fine idea and nobody seems to object to that :)</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:32:20 AM) fray: I thought it had been merged, other then a few utilities</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:33:37 AM) khem: I tried core-image-sato build with meta-oe enabled</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:33:40 AM) khem: did not work</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:34:07 AM) RP__: khem: hmm, any idea what the issue was</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:34:11 AM) khem: so I vehemently blamed it</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:34:14 AM) RP__: we need to find and deal with things like this</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:34:46 AM) khem: RP__: yes, we should but then something else pops up :)</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:34:50 AM) fray: yes.. we should probably have someone look into meta-oe and plan for a merge if reasonable.. or at least identify issues like this</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:35:11 AM) khem: my point is it should be easily overlayed on oe-core and not regress oe-core</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:36:13 AM) RP__: khem: agreed, just need someone with some time to look at it</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:36:17 AM) fray: yes</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:36:30 AM) khem: bluelightning: will you send follow up to the layer split discussions of your meeting at FOSDEM</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:36:43 AM) bluelightning: khem: will do yes</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:36:57 AM) khem: that should get us some further in decision process</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:37:21 AM) bluelightning: khem: I think we should just press ahead on the toolchain split out though</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:37:35 AM) RP__: As the TSC, I think we can agree that?</span></font></div><div>
<font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:37:39 AM) khem: bluelightning: yeah</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:38:03 AM) fray: yes</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:38:05 AM) ***Jefro listens for detractors</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:38:16 AM) khem: ok.</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:38:45 AM) khem: Jefro: when/where is Collab Summit</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:38:54 AM) Jefro: Collab Summit is April 3-5 in San Francisco</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:39:07 AM) Jefro: there will be a Yocto working day all day on Weds Apr 4</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:39:21 AM) Jefro: Collab is invitation-only- I am working to secure a certain number of invitations</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:39:22 AM) khem: ok and thats in Fremont ?</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:39:40 AM) Jefro: no - there is also an invitation-only Yocto BSP Summit in Fremont, that is on April 2</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:39:48 AM) khem: Jefro: extend to me if you have spare :)</span></font></div><div>
<font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:40:00 AM) Jefro: khem I will definitely try</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:40:09 AM) khem: both yocto/collab that is</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:40:22 AM) khem: oh brb</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:40:55 AM) RP__: The bsp summit is to try and get everyone on the same page around BSPs and layers, the various definitions and so on</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:41:21 AM) bluelightning: hmm that would be interesting...</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:41:39 AM) RP__: if the yocto people can't reach a consensus amongst themselves it seems crazy to involve more people in the discussion</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:41:39 AM) Jefro: bluelightning you should have gotten an invitation. any chance you'll be in town?</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:41:56 AM) RP__: I don't think there is that much of an issue, just need to get people together and spend some time talking through what we have today</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:42:02 AM) RP__: and then see where things go</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:43:04 AM) bluelightning: Jefro: I'm not sure... I need to check if I'm available, and also would depend on travel approval</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:43:17 AM) Jefro: yes, travel will be a problem</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:44:03 AM) Jefro: I'm planning to at least record parts of the event. Will also talk to Mentor to see if we can let people join via webex, but interactive participation would be limited.</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:46:00 AM) Jefro: any other items?</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:46:21 AM) bluelightning: khem's still afk I think</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:46:33 AM) RP__: nothing from me</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse">(9:46:43 AM) bluelightning: nothing from me either</span></font></div>
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