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2015-10-09T16:04:11Z

Potential OE Day at ELCE next year

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	== Potential OE Day at ELCE next year ==		== Potential OE Day at ELCE next year ==

	PB: day of oe presentations		PB: day of oe presentations
	more like bofs		more like bofs
	=> board: do a proper cfp		=> board: do a proper cfp
			tlwoerner: lightning talks

2015-10-09T16:00:20Z

Advocacy

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	* devs doing board bringup		* devs doing board bringup
	* is oe for everyone?		* is oe for everyone?

			== Potential OE Day at ELCE next year ==

			PB: day of oe presentations
			more like bofs
			=> board: do a proper cfp

2015-10-09T15:50:20Z

Agenda

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	** Build and test failures on the public Autobuilder (Bluelightening)</s>		** Build and test failures on the public Autobuilder (Bluelightening)</s>

	*Systemd		*<s>Systemd
	** ~~<s>~~Systemd packaging. As new things appear, they are lumped into one package. Update split? (Crofton relaying info)		** Systemd packaging. As new things appear, they are lumped into one package. Update split? (Crofton relaying info)
	** Can we get systemd's first-boot support to work? It is currently disabled in the systemd recipe by touching /etc/machine-id. (Saur)</s>		** Can we get systemd's first-boot support to work? It is currently disabled in the systemd recipe by touching /etc/machine-id. (Saur)</s>
	** <s>How to make it easy to setup a system "the systemd way"? New DISTRO_FEATURE or IMAGE_FEATURE? (Saur)</s>		** <s>How to make it easy to setup a system "the systemd way"? New DISTRO_FEATURE or IMAGE_FEATURE? (Saur)</s>

2015-10-09T15:49:46Z

Agenda

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	**** This should also happen when installing a package in runtime.</s>		**** This should also happen when installing a package in runtime.</s>

	*Advocacy		*<s>Advocacy
	** There are still a lot of projects (too many?) not using OE (tlwoerner)		** There are still a lot of projects (too many?) not using OE (tlwoerner)
	** why aren't more projects using OE?		** why aren't more projects using OE?
	** how can we get more people using OE?		** how can we get more people using OE?
	** who should we be targeting? (build people (obviously), kernel devs? user-space devs?)		** who should we be targeting? (build people (obviously), kernel devs? user-space devs?)</s>

	== Attendees ==		== Attendees ==

2015-10-09T15:46:52Z

Advocacy

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	need someone to run oe booth at fosdem, as paul is leaving [beth, belen]		need someone to run oe booth at fosdem, as paul is leaving [beth, belen]

			value in tools:
			devtool
			adt

	who should we be targeting? build people, kernel devs, userspace devs		who should we be targeting? build people, kernel devs, userspace devs
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	* white papers - active promotion (how is this different from debian etc) - at executive level; case studies, potato counter, comcast		* white papers - active promotion (how is this different from debian etc) - at executive level; case studies, potato counter, comcast
	* maintain community metrics		* maintain community metrics
			* koen: conference presentation comparing various build systems (oe, buildroot, etc)
			* devs doing board bringup
			* is oe for everyone?

2015-10-09T15:35:22Z

Advocacy

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 === Advocacy ===
 how can we get more people using OE?
 who should we be targeting? build people, kernel devs, userspace devs

2015-10-09T14:58:50Z

Agenda

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	** <s>Systemd packaging. As new things appear, they are lumped into one package. Update split? (Crofton relaying info)		** <s>Systemd packaging. As new things appear, they are lumped into one package. Update split? (Crofton relaying info)
	** Can we get systemd's first-boot support to work? It is currently disabled in the systemd recipe by touching /etc/machine-id. (Saur)</s>		** Can we get systemd's first-boot support to work? It is currently disabled in the systemd recipe by touching /etc/machine-id. (Saur)</s>
	** How to make it easy to setup a system "the systemd way"? New DISTRO_FEATURE or IMAGE_FEATURE? (Saur)		** <s>How to make it easy to setup a system "the systemd way"? New DISTRO_FEATURE or IMAGE_FEATURE? (Saur)</s>
	*** <s>Link /bin -> /usr/bin, /lib -> /usr/lib, etc.</s>		*** <s>Link /bin -> /usr/bin, /lib -> /usr/lib, etc.</s>
	*** <s>Change ${systemd_unitdir} to /usr/lib.</s>		*** <s>Change ${systemd_unitdir} to /usr/lib.</s>
	*** Make the systemctl wrapper install in ${systemd_unitdir} rather than ${systemconf}/systemd.		*** <s>Make the systemctl wrapper install in ${systemd_unitdir} rather than ${systemconf}/systemd.
	**** This should also happen when installing a package in runtime.		**** This should also happen when installing a package in runtime.</s>

	*Advocacy		*Advocacy

2015-10-09T14:58:19Z

Systemd

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	should work if reasonable default can be changed		should work if reasonable default can be changed
	patches are problematic - RP wants clear coherent vision		patches are problematic - RP wants clear coherent vision

			systemctl wrapper needs documentation for working with systemd
			current docs targeted at app developers - not distro devs
			want to use the install section
			=> file systemctl wrapper bug

	=== Advocacy ===		=== Advocacy ===

2015-10-09T14:35:05Z

Systemd

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	peter, koen using systemd but not using official oe recipe - based on		peter, koen using systemd but not using official oe recipe - based on

	Can we get systemd first boot support to work?		Can we get systemd first boot support to work?
			MH wind struggling on read-only filesystems

	MH ~~wind struggling~~		Easy setup "should work now"
			yes can get it to work - talk to upstream
			changing prefixes problematic
			MH unitdir to /usr/lib - can't boot without base lib
			should be able to boot minimal system w/shell and some commands
			should work if reasonable default can be changed
			patches are problematic - RP wants clear coherent vision

	=== Advocacy ===		=== Advocacy ===