OEDAM 2017

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Location and Time

Monday February 20 2017

Location:
Mentor Graphics
8005 Boeckman Rd
Wilsonville, OR 97070
Phone: (800) 547-3000
9am-5pm

(Before ELC [Feb 21-23] and Yocto Project Developer Day [Feb 24])

Current transportation plan is meet in the Hilton Lobby at 0800. From there we will use Lyft/Uber/other in as efficient way as possible.

(fray) I've got room for 2, maybe 3 people in my car.

(jamesp) I can transport 3 in my car.


Live meeting minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ECCfBwdLUaW3I23RATWCU3kGnSh04Kv0DkH1_KfiLVA/edit?usp=sharing

Live phone conference dialin:

Conference# 8964521

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Attendees

  • Armin Kuster (armpit)
  • Philip Balister (Crofton)
  • Trevor Woerner (tlwoerner)
  • Denys Dmytriyenko (denix)
  • Stephano Cetola
  • Matthew McClintock
  • Tim Orling (moto-timo)
  • James Perkins (jamesp)
  • Patrick Ohly (pohly)
  • Richard Purdie (RP)
  • Mark Hatle (fray)
  • Jan-Simon Möller (dl9pf)
  • Derek Straka
  • Scott Murray (scottm)
  • Ken Sharp
  • Behan Webster (behanw)
  • Brian Avery (bavery)
  • Saul Wold (sgw)
  • David Reyna

Agenda Items

  • Review items from last meeting in Berlin (Please add remarks)
  • Proposal (Patrick): "production" vs. "development" builds and features
  • Proposal (Patrick): stateless distro
  • Proposal (Patrick): GPLv3 handling - remove recipes for obsolete components, replace with adaptive recipe and image configurations (like disabling readline support)
  • Proposal (Patrick): remove openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org Reply-To?
  • Discuss recruiting new layer maintainers for meta-oe and what a maintainer does.

Berlin AR's

LTS

Yocto-Compatibility requires pushing patches upstream, but Yocto doesn't handle QA for old releases A lot of work for the software vendors rp: have new/separate LTS tree for older releases crofton: how to coordinate between ppl who want this, collect interest in the wiki add maintainer information to the layer repos? rp: write a proposal? → enough interest to set this up

action: Armin will start conversation on the Architecture list Not completed

Windriver ‘setup’ Demo

Conclusion: We want it in OE instead of Yocto (unanimous) Mark: Once able to contribute, talk to halstead for new repo. Repo published. OE has not taken over

Notes: Layer Index was recently updated and this was required before progress can be made on promoting this tool.

I would like to talk about the next steps at the OEDAM, now that everything is public.

Devtool and other stuff (10:04)

Sysroot-Contamination rp: solution “sysroot per recipe”


Suggestion for improvement of how to handle site and user configuration.

Conclusion: Saur will implement the BBPATH_EXTRA and discuss it on the list.

BSPs and layer name recommendations

RP: We can do this by … For Compatible v2 we want to raise the bar. Sanity check for things that keep breaking. Conclusion: Jan-Simon will start a script check the basic stuff, RP should add the checksum checks.

OTA

RP: This discussion needs to continue beyond OEDEM


Layer Quality

Conclusion: We need to get the word out and get suggestions.


Make perl and python distro features? [Saur]

Conclusion: No change.


Support for meson build system? [Saur]

Conclusion: Patches welcome, talk to Ross.


The use of ${COREBASE}/LICENSE in LIC_FILES_CHKSUM. [Saur]

Conclusion: RP: This needs to go to the ML


Discuss merging duplicate classes and recipes (metadata)

Conclusion: Duplicate recipes and machines need to be brought up with the maintainers.

Conclusion: Mark, RP, Chris and others should look to create a proposal about resolving the confusion over layer order/priority/etc.


Changes to deploy_image

Conclusion: Document


Discussion on mesa and splitting libgbm

Conclusion: RP: Topic should be discussed with Ross on mailing list.

Discussion of recipe maintainers for oe-core and beyond

RP: This list is a Yocto initiative. They try to get more involvement from the members. There is an incentive to get more ppl involved (recipe reporting system):

Minutes