[oe] RFD: Bugzilla in general & bug triaging

Junqian Gordon Xu xjqian at gmail.com
Mon May 14 08:08:03 UTC 2007


Rolf,

Is it a problem if I replace the openembedded-issues@ with my email 
address in the Reassign to field? Does openembedded-issues still gets 
all the updates?

I don't want only me receiving the emails even I assign the bug to myself.

regards
Gordon

Rolf Leggewie wrote:
> Graeme Gregory wrote:
>   
>> RFC
>>
>> Dont add people to CC field of bugs without talking to them.
>>     
>
> Thank you Graeme for raising this issue.  It is something I meant to 
> discuss earlier but never found enough time to think it through and 
> write up something.  I still have not thought it through, but here it goes.
>
> Let me first say, that I am totally aware that we are all doing this in 
> our limited free time.  We also all don't like things being stuffed down 
> our throat.  There is a bit of dilemma here.
>
> As a non-dev, I feel one of the better ways for me and others alike is 
> to make sure the BTS is in good shape.  It is called bug triaging which 
> I also do in other projects.  For me, this is all about efficiency, 
> division of labor so to speak (although that capitalistic thinking might 
> not go down too well with all of us freeminds ;-))  The idea is that 
> there is someone who sifts through the bug reports and makes sure they 
> are understandable, complete and real.  The triager also crosslinks bugs 
> that share similarities and classifies them.   All this *before they eat 
> up valuable time from a real dev*.  That is at least what I am trying to 
> do, for the devs to sit down and find well-structured problems to work 
> on whenever they feel like it (I know the OE BTS is not there yet, bug 
> 2194 is a shy start at this).
>
> This is how Ubuntu and Mozilla approach the bugs they receive.  But it 
> needs a way to signal "Hey, this bug is OK" and furthermore bugs are 
> usually assigned to the most appropriate person.  So that is what I did 
> first, assign bugs to the people I thought would be most appropriate in 
> dealing with them.  That did not go down so well :-)  So, it was 
> suggested to me that instead of assigning, I should cc people.  But that 
> is certainly not the best solution, either.
>
> I believe it would be great if OE started some kind of not too rigid 
> process of triaging bugs.  All projects are a bit different, so what do 
> you think would be the best way for OE to handle this?
>
>  > Everyone on oe-issues list gets all bug reports anyway and I can use
>  > web search quite effectively myself.
>
> Graeme, I understand your concern.  I don't mean to say "Hey, here is 
> the solution" but maybe there are some options you might consider.
>
> First is that I would think that it might be a waste of valuable dev 
> time if all core devs read all bug reports on oe-issues.  Of course, 
> that is an individual decision.  But if we got something like bug 
> triaging going in a more instituationalized way, it might indeed become 
> unnecessary.  Second, bugzilla offers many settings on what mails you 
> want to receive and which you don't at 
> http://bugs.openembedded.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email.  If you read 
> oe-issues, you might want to consider deactivating all mail from 
> bugzilla itself to keep the load down.
>
>
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