[oe] OE recipe tree quality

[Frans Meulenbroeks]

2010/7/30 Koen Kooi <k.kooi at student.utwente.nl>

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> On 30-07-10 09:21, Esben Haabendal wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Philip Balister <philip at balister.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 07/29/2010 05:45 AM, Koen Kooi wrote:
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> >>> On 29-07-10 10:50, Frans Meulenbroeks wrote:
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> >>>> Dear all,
> >>>>
> >>>> Given the discussions on quality that sometimes pop up (and also
> >>>> triggered
> >>>> by Robert's message), I decided to kick off a bitbake -k world.
> >>>
> >>> Could you first explain to me why 'bitbake world' is a good way to
> >>> measure quality?
> >>>
> >>> I would think that building something like console-image and looking at
> >>> the following would be a much better metric:
> >>>
> >>> * does it build?
> >>> * are all the rootfs types working?
> >>> * does the image do what it is supposed to do?
> >>> * Are all the licenses of the output packages correct?
> >>> * Do the output packages have any spurious deps?
> >>> * Is the content of the output packages correct?
> >>> * Are there any known CVEs in the resulting packages?
> >>> * Did packaged-staging do its job?
> >>> * What kind of QA errors and warnings were raised?
> >>> * Did all recipes pass recipe_sanity?
> >>> * Did all recipes conform to oe-stylize.py?
> >>>
> >>> etc
> >>>
> >>> I would actually advocate removing the 'world' feature from bitbake/OE
> >>> to stop people from wasting time on looking at bitbake world and have
> >>> them fix actual problems.
> >>
> >> bitbake world seems to be the source of pointless listserv discussions.
> Does
> >> it serve any purpose?
> >
> > Pointless or not really depends on how you look at quality.
> >
> > If you look at it as you, Koen and other OE long-timers, yes, it looks
> > rather pointless to have bitbake world.
> > But for those of us who have a different view on what quality is, then
> > bitbake world serves a purpose.
>
> As Thomas points out, as soon as you start blacklisting things (which
> actually increases quality), bitbake world doesn't work anymore.
>

Blacklisting does *NOT* increase quality. It just hides the problem and as
such it is ostrich behaviour.

Instead of masking the problem, better fix things. That is what improves
quality!

For me a non building recipe is a sign of poor quality.

BTW: to avoid the blacklisting issue, I've restarted my test with minimal
distro.
Results will probably be available after the weekend.

Frans.



> That alone should be enough to kill it.
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