[oe] meta-systemd future vote Was: [meta-systemd][PATCH 1/2] Delete systemd class.

[Andreas Müller]

On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Martin Jansa <martin.jansa at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 11:59:07PM +0100, Martin Jansa wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 11:50:41PM +0100, Andreas Müller wrote:
>> > On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 11:18 PM, Martin Jansa <martin.jansa at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 09:25:34AM -0800, Khem Raj wrote:
>> > >> Signed-off-by: Khem Raj <raj.khem at gmail.com>
>> > >
>> > > good old meta-systemd should now parse again,
>> > Thanks - will come back to test HEADs soon.
>>
>> But be aware that I've fixed only parsing of avahi and wpa-supplicant.
>>
>> I haven't tested it properly in runtime because my upgrade path is a bit
>> broken (because I was building images with khem's patches for a while to
>> test other stuff) and even clean build with failed to boot with
>> qemux86-64 and I don't have time to debug it now.
>>
>> > > I wont apply this 2 commits
>> > > until systemd discussion in oe-core is finished and future of
>> > > meta-systemd decided.
>> > >
>> > After systemd regression is worked around yocto 1.4 release regression
>> > is knocking at the door...
>>
>> yes :/
>>
>> If we need to maintain meta-systemd bbappends for upgrade path we can
>> also maintain them with PN-systemd packages and good old systemd bbclass.
>
> Khem pinged me about this patch, so here are my thoughts:
>
> PN-systemd discussion in oe-core haven't moved a bit since this patch
> was proposed, I think we have 2-3 options, lets vote about meta-systemd future.
>
> 1) keep PN-systemd separation in meta-systemd and fixup .bbappends to
> resolve issues created by oe-core (I've fixed some issues, but still a
> lot of issues in postinst/postrm/prerm scripts when both inits are
> sharing the same PN)
>
> 2) give up on clean separation of PN-<init> and provide upgrade path
> from PN-systemd to PN (mostly done by these 2 commits from khem).
>
> 3) give up on clean separation of PN-<init> and upgrade path (there are
> many issues in other parts of oe-core, so upgrade path from danny to
> dylan doesn't look usable.
>
> A) migrate existing .bbappends to their recipes to .bb files and
> remove this layer. Any volunteer for that?
>
> My vote: 3) + A) later in 1.5
> I guess we're all too busy to implement 1), upgrade path would be nice,
> but is all-or-nothing, doesn't make much sense to spend a lot of time
> fixing every issue from PN-systemd when there are issues from other
> recipes we're not going to fix by .bbappends in meta-oe.
>
> Vote required from Khem, Koen, Andreas, Enrico, Otavio
> Vote welcome from other meta-systemd contributors
>
tend also to 3) + A) but I would prefer to have it as one transaction.
Otherwise we might face another upgrade path breakage. I know this
will cause questions as who and when...

Andreas