[oe] meta-systemd future vote Was: [meta-systemd][PATCH 1/2] Delete systemd class.

[Khem Raj]

On Apr 10, 2013, at 4:39 AM, Andreas Müller <schnitzeltony at googlemail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Martin Jansa <martin.jansa at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 11:59:07PM +0100, Martin Jansa wrote:
>>> On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 11:50:41PM +0100, Andreas Müller wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 11:18 PM, Martin Jansa <martin.jansa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 09:25:34AM -0800, Khem Raj wrote:
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Khem Raj <raj.khem at gmail.com>
>>>>> 
>>>>> good old meta-systemd should now parse again,
>>>> Thanks - will come back to test HEADs soon.
>>> 
>>> But be aware that I've fixed only parsing of avahi and wpa-supplicant.
>>> 
>>> I haven't tested it properly in runtime because my upgrade path is a bit
>>> broken (because I was building images with khem's patches for a while to
>>> test other stuff) and even clean build with failed to boot with
>>> qemux86-64 and I don't have time to debug it now.
>>> 
>>>>> I wont apply this 2 commits
>>>>> until systemd discussion in oe-core is finished and future of
>>>>> meta-systemd decided.
>>>>> 
>>>> After systemd regression is worked around yocto 1.4 release regression
>>>> is knocking at the door...
>>> 
>>> yes :/
>>> 
>>> If we need to maintain meta-systemd bbappends for upgrade path we can
>>> also maintain them with PN-systemd packages and good old systemd bbclass.
>> 
>> Khem pinged me about this patch, so here are my thoughts:
>> 
>> PN-systemd discussion in oe-core haven't moved a bit since this patch
>> was proposed, I think we have 2-3 options, lets vote about meta-systemd future.
>> 
>> 1) keep PN-systemd separation in meta-systemd and fixup .bbappends to
>> resolve issues created by oe-core (I've fixed some issues, but still a
>> lot of issues in postinst/postrm/prerm scripts when both inits are
>> sharing the same PN)
>> 
>> 2) give up on clean separation of PN-<init> and provide upgrade path
>> from PN-systemd to PN (mostly done by these 2 commits from khem).
>> 
>> 3) give up on clean separation of PN-<init> and upgrade path (there are
>> many issues in other parts of oe-core, so upgrade path from danny to
>> dylan doesn't look usable.
>> 
>> A) migrate existing .bbappends to their recipes to .bb files and
>> remove this layer. Any volunteer for that?
>> 
>> My vote: 3) + A) later in 1.5
>> I guess we're all too busy to implement 1), upgrade path would be nice,
>> but is all-or-nothing, doesn't make much sense to spend a lot of time
>> fixing every issue from PN-systemd when there are issues from other
>> recipes we're not going to fix by .bbappends in meta-oe.
>> 
>> Vote required from Khem, Koen, Andreas, Enrico, Otavio
>> Vote welcome from other meta-systemd contributors
>> 
> tend also to 3) + A) but I would prefer to have it as one transaction.
> Otherwise we might face another upgrade path breakage. I know this
> will cause questions as who and when…


actually, 3+A is going to take some time I feel first 2 (without upgrade path) and then eventually 3+A would get us there


> 
> Andreas