Agenda for 2011-02-14 meeting

[Khem Raj]

On (11/02/11 23:25), Stefan Schmidt wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> On Fri, 2011-02-11 at 19:33, Koen Kooi wrote:
> > 
> > Op 11 feb 2011, om 17:23 heeft Tom Rini het volgende geschreven:
> > >>> 
> > >>> y) Quickly discuss if we are fine with having the IRC meeting (read-only) open
> > >>>   for interested community member. (Interest expressed from several ones)
> > >> 
> > >> I'm against that, it leads to chatter in backchannels that isn't needed or wanted. The archive of this list and minutes should be enough.
> > > 
> > > I'm for it.  I know that other projects like Jenkins have their meetings in public.  I don't think we need to adopt the formal bits of how they run it, but using say #oe-tsc, setting it to moderated and giving the TSC members voices should be enough.  We should however ask that observers be just that, observing, rather than messaging folks to argue their point further
> > 
> > Seeing what kind of people are OE developers, that's not going to work. I feel quite strongly about this. In the first TSC we did the private meetings and public minutes, which worked quite well.
> 
> I also have some feeling for this topic and they are more aligned with Tom's.
> 
> I don't see a point in having only the minutes public. Such meetings should hide
> nothing. And people that would use backchannels would use them for the
> messaging about the minutes as they would use them for the IRC meeting. No
> difference there.

We need to be effective and I think its important to remain focussed. Its
hassle to arrange logistics and chances of getting more rat-holing.

> 
> These people are our community. The TSC need to work with them in a respectful
> way to earn credit and support from them. The TSC is a service for them.
> 

That is agreed. I think we can publish the agenda in advance and see if
people would like to add/delete items. There will be some issues which will
not be so favourites and everything may not be decided on technical merits

I think anyone can be as effective in contributing to agenda and doing
portmartem of meeting minutes than being there and seeing whats flashing on
screen. I would think that people wont want to waste their time just
reading the flashes on IRC channel and not participating. I would think
that adding contents to agenda and meeting minute results can be lot more
effective. 

But that said if community wants to hold this in open I am all open for it
as long as it stays focussed and we get to the target we wished before the
meeting.

> Anyway, I think everyone can make up his mind about this topic as it would be
> pretty emotional after some discussion. :) My favourite would be a quick vote
> about this during the first meeting and every TSC member stay with the final
> vote.
> 
> regards
> Stefan Schmidt
> 
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