Agenda for 2011-02-14 meeting

[Richard Purdie]

On Fri, 2011-02-11 at 23:25 +0100, Stefan Schmidt wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> On Fri, 2011-02-11 at 19:33, Koen Kooi wrote:
> > 
> > Op 11 feb 2011, om 17:23 heeft Tom Rini het volgende geschreven:
> > >>> 
> > >>> y) Quickly discuss if we are fine with having the IRC meeting (read-only) open
> > >>>   for interested community member. (Interest expressed from several ones)
> > >> 
> > >> I'm against that, it leads to chatter in backchannels that isn't needed or wanted. The archive of this list and minutes should be enough.
> > > 
> > > I'm for it.  I know that other projects like Jenkins have their meetings in public.  I don't think we need to adopt the formal bits of how they run it, but using say #oe-tsc, setting it to moderated and giving the TSC members voices should be enough.  We should however ask that observers be just that, observing, rather than messaging folks to argue their point further
> > 
> > Seeing what kind of people are OE developers, that's not going to work. I feel quite strongly about this. In the first TSC we did the private meetings and public minutes, which worked quite well.
> 
> I also have some feeling for this topic and they are more aligned with Tom's.
> 
> I don't see a point in having only the minutes public. Such meetings should hide
> nothing. And people that would use backchannels would use them for the
> messaging about the minutes as they would use them for the IRC meeting. No
> difference there.
> 
> These people are our community. The TSC need to work with them in a respectful
> way to earn credit and support from them. The TSC is a service for them.
> 
> Anyway, I think everyone can make up his mind about this topic as it would be
> pretty emotional after some discussion. :) My favourite would be a quick vote
> about this during the first meeting and every TSC member stay with the final
> vote.

There is a balance here. On the one hand the TSC has at times done
spectacularly badly at involving the wider community and being open and
transparent. On the other, we need to be able to have discussions and be
productive.

On balance I do think more openness might be a wise idea in the current
climate, the exact form I haven't made my mind up on yet...

Cheers,

Richard